I recently joined a plant identification group while trying to identify a plant I found in the woods. There are currently, I believe, around four thousand international members of this group.
I also belong to a writer’s group, which has thousands of international members.
It’s hard to avoid comparing the two. And it’s been a bit of a shock.
Within the plant group, a person can seek all sorts of help around identification, habitat, and so on. The members consist of those who can easily list off the latin names and those who know only the common names. But wow. The rudeness. And I’m not one of those types easily offended.
Recently a person posted a photo of a plant that looked suspiciously like blueberries. She found it in a raised bed where she had planted blueberries. She thought it was one of her plants. Who wouldn’t? But when she ate a berry, she realized it was different. She sought help identifying the plant, and instead was slammed with hundreds of people belittling her for eating something she didn’t know. Many of the responses were quite cruel.
Within the writer’s group, members run the gamut from experienced journalists and novelists to raw beginners.
Recently a person posted a question about her fear switching from freelance journalism to attempting a novel. She sought help and advice. She was slammed with hundreds of people offering help, listing resources, encouraging her to try something new, and excited on her behalf.
Now don’t get me wrong. This isn’t one of those broad generalizations. There are rude responses in the writer’s group once in a while, and there are kind responses on the plant site. But the percentages are skewed. On the plant side, the kind responses are in a minority. It’s the opposite on the writer’s group.
This has me wondering what makes the difference. I don’t think it’s tied to ‘writing’ or ‘plants’.
Is it social media? The freedom the internet gives one to say things they wouldn’t to another’s face? That’s simplistic and an overly used excuse.
Is it art vs. science? The rude responses on the plant site seem to overwhelmingly be from those who can spout Latin names without typos. Is an artist more willing to share, and learn from sharing, where the science type leans to snobbery? I don’t believe this for an instant.
So what’s going on?
It’s the administrators. Those who do the writer’s group monitor things closely. If a comment is uncalled for, the person is called on it. I had many years as a facilitator of a writer’s group to understand the need for quick involvement. In the plant group, there are rules you agree to when you sign on, and supposedly there are administrators out there somewhere. Occasionally, like the thread about blueberries, these guys step in and put their foot down. But by the time they do, the thread has gone on way too long and the damage is done.
In other words, it seems we can’t be left alone in our play groups without our parents. Or at least some of us.
So I’m going to drop the plant group. Who needs that in our short lives? I bet there are other plant groups out there that are more professional, and that have members more like writers.
Then I’m going to go soak in the writer’s group for a while to clean off the plant group.
10 thoughts on “Words Vs. Plants”
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Lisa Stowe – The Story River Blog wrote:
> Lisa posted: “I recently joined a plant identification group while trying > to identify a plant I found in the woods. There are currently, I believe, > around four thousand international members of this group. I also belong to > a writer’s group, which has thousands of in” >
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I had a similar experience recently.
I was writing advice on a famous travel website to help out other people but so many people wrote such rude and patronising comments that I just gave up. Life is too short to be trolled by people you’re never actually going to meet.
If you are at all interested in continuing with plants try the Washington State Native Plant society, however the scope of that organization may be too limited for your purposes.
Or just keep checking with your local resources….
Agree that life is far too short for nonsense, no matter where it’s found.
I’ll look that group up. I think my post missed my point in some ways. It’s weird to me that we need moderators, administrators, ‘parents’ to keep us civil and polite and treating others with respect.
Hi Lisa, I came to visit from the writer’s group ;)! Wow, that plant group sounds like a real pain. I have encountered that before with an adoption group. The whole point of the group was to one-up other people with your PCness. At least that’s how it came to feel. No real feeling for other people. Anyway, I came to say hello!
I got that impression – that those who could rattle off the full Latin names felt superior to those who couldn’t. Because they were the main guilty ones. And here you are perfectly demonstrating the difference between the two groups! So nice of you to drop by and say hello.
Life is too short to put your energy into a group like that.
I have heard many good things about the Master Gardeners. I’m not sure if that’s what your looking for but you may want to check them out.
I did find some good plant groups to join. And you’re right, life’s too short. But isn’t it sad that as advanced as we think we are in so many ways, we still need administrators to play nice together?